The Invisible Army That Occupies America

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“this mysterious legion is an inactive and passive force of sluggish soldiers that weighs heavily upon the nation.”

Over the past few decades, America has been invaded by an invisible army of ten million men. The impact of this army is fast becoming a crisis in urgent need of solutions.

You might assume that this army is made up of illegal immigrants who are taking away jobs and overwhelming social services. But in fact, this mysterious legion is an inactive and passive force of sluggish soldiers that weighs heavily upon the nation.

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This army is the subject of Nicholas Eberstadt’s masterful study, America’s Invisible Crisis: Men Without Work: ten million American men of prime working age who now “spend absolutely no time at a job and are not acting to alter that situation.”

These idle men comprise some ten percent of the male workforce. They are evidence that the work ethic that made America great has all but collapsed among certain sectors of the public. Worse yet, this invisible crisis has been largely ignored by sociologists and scholars, perhaps in favor of trendier social problems that garner greater attention.



Eberstadt correctly maintains that this is not only a social crisis but above all a moral crisis. Those who should be breadwinners do not want to hold a job. Those who should be dependable are now listed as dependents. A culture of industriousness has been replaced with a system that “encourages sloth, idleness, and vices.”

While the scale of the crisis is invisible, we have all seen it in isolation. Everyone knows relatives, friends and acquaintances that fit into this strange category of men fleeing from work. It is only when the facts are laid out in all their totality that scale of the crisis begins to sink in.

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That is the merit of Eberstadt’s book. The author has all the facts and proves his points convincingly. He further presents plenty of graphs, charts and statistics without appearing overly academic and stuffy. These help him tell his story and thankfully require little scholarly background to understand.

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their activities include “attending gambling establishments,” “tobacco and drug use,” “listening to the radio,” and “socializing and communicating with others.”

Again Eberstadt makes explicit what most people implicitly know. Something is terribly wrong with a subset of men in our society. He lays out just who these “ghost soldiers” are, how they are supported and what they are doing. He acknowledges that there is a certain sector of nonworking men who are in training or pursuing education. However, his focus is on the vast majority that falls outside this category. These are the men who don’t want to work even if a good job were offered.

Most of these voluntary “un-workers” are the result of the breakdown of the family and society. A majority without work are uneducated and unmarried. Many have shirked the responsibility of family life and live lives of self-absorbed gratification. They lack what Eberstadt calls “the motivations, aspirations, priorities, values, and other intangibles that do so much to explain real-world human achievements.”

What is a bit surprising is that these men are not in bread lines or soup kitchens. They are hardly rich but not necessarily poor. Most of these men live reasonably comfortable lives due to the support of wives, girlfriends, aging parents or government welfare. Some even rely on two or three government or disability programs to survive. With such support, there is no motivation to look for jobs.

So what do these idle men do with their time? Nothing productive. Eberstadt distinguishes between leisure that “refines and elevates” while “idleness corrupts and degrades.”

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“In short, these men do not want to grow up.”

There is no doubt under which category the un-workers fall. Surveys find that their activities include “attending gambling establishments,” “tobacco and drug use,” “listening to the radio,” and “socializing and communicating with others.” Another pastime among men in this category includes watching television and movies, which consumes an average of five and a half hours a day.

Indeed, they have abandoned normal adult pursuits and responsibilities. Many of them have been involved in criminal activities that further isolates them from normal society. They fill their days with gadgets and pastimes that are causing what Eberstadt does not hesitate to label as their “infantilization.”

And that is the tragedy. What America is witnessing is the appalling waste of manhood. “In short, these men do not want to grow up.” These are men who do not want to do what men should do. They do not want to be husbands, to commit themselves to a stable and permanent relationship with women and form families. They have little interest in being faithful citizens, in getting involved in their community, volunteering or shouldering the burdens of civic responsibilities.

In short, these men do not want to grow up.

Eberstadt hopes to make this invisible army visible. He wants to start a public debate, even taking the unusual step of publishing dissenting views at the end of his book.

The debate is sorely needed since the problem will not be solved by mere economic growth or new jobs. An army of ten million men occupies America’s land and cities with little desire to contribute to the common good. Like any occupying army, they weigh down the system, the treasury and the ethics of the nation. Promising jobs to these men without work will not solve the problem. The system that facilitates them must be reformed. Real change, however, will only happen when these infantilized men man up.

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  • Englein

    Many of these men shirking adult responsibilities are, as is mentioned, supported by wives or girlfriends, or parents. What if enough young women refused to be “girlfriends” to these men who won’t work. And I have to wonder how much time these so-called men spend on porn, which is addictive and ruins motivation.

    • Paul Tran

      Too true, and perhaps that’s why birthrate in the West is declining as well. No kids, no responsibilities, decadence & self indulgences will amount to chaos and the eventual collapse of western society.

    • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

      my son has been looking for a job for four years, college graduate, hard working sometime doing 2 or 3 part time jobs to pay his bill, but cannot find full time work with benefits, everyone says he is to educated, they seem to only want to hire dumb, stupid kids so they can pay them a small check and educated young men are denied work in our area. Also we live in a 90 Asian area who have taken over all the jobs, business, homes etc. they refuse to hire anyone but their own kind or say you need to speak an Asian language to get a job. I am tied of everyone thinking that many a young man wants work and just cannot find it. No all of them are lazy or have girlfriends to support them. In our area a one bed room for rent can be as high as $800 this is just a room in someones home. aprtment are so high, several families live together. so my kids live at home with us and keep trying to find work. Englein, you really do not know what you are talking about. I am sure a lot of these men would work if they could just find good jobs with a good pay especially those with college education.

      • Kevin Mark

        Sounds like your son should move to a better location.

        • Legoge47

          Name the location please! Certainly not Rockford Illinois. My son is 42 years old, a navy veteran and unable to find anything other than bagging groceries in a super market. Living with us because he can’t get enough money for a place of his own.

        • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

          one of my son already had to move clear across the country and we have not been able to see him in years, why should we allow foreigners to buy up our nation and break up families. it is not so simple to just move. When my other sons company closed down they laid off every employee except 4 and he was told he either moved or would also loose his job so he moved. he lives in N. Carolina and we live in CA. thousands of miles apart, we have not seen our grand-kids in over 6 years. Cost a lot of money when people are old. some people think life is so simple, we still are supporting two younger kids and my husband is old. My son helps us out and he does not want to move, to be alone in another state. but then again this does not always matter to some people who have loose ties with their parents and family. Kevin hope this never happens to you and if you have family you are not forced to move and leave them and move thousands of miles away, so you can find work. This is why families in America are so broken up. Also let me know where he can find work, because at the beginning he even applied as far away as New York and then most companies are just not hiring full time. for every job out there hundreds of people apply for the same job. one company told him they would not hire him because he was not married and did not have kids and they where giving men who had families first pick. Guess single young men do not need to work, or eat or have a place to live. People like you who have such simple answers just are living in a dream world and have not realized or maybe experience the reality of what has happened in our nation. thousands of jobs have been going over seas and hundreds of companies are not hiring. and even with a job when rents, food, etc is so high that even married couples with kids are moving back home with their parents in order to make ends meet. Our nation is in so much debt, that it may take years for this nation to get better for our youth. Thank Obama and the Democrats for the last 8 years of spending and allowing companies to move and take jobs over seas. for one……

        • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

          AND WHERE IS THAT BETTER LOCATION. MY OTHER SON IN N CAROLINA SAYS PEOPLE THERE DO NOT LIKE CERTAIN RACES OR PEOPLE FROM CALIFORNIA, THE WINTERS ARE COLD, JOBS ARE HARD TO GET, HE WAS MOVED WITH HIS COMPANY OTHERWISE HE WOULD STILL BE IN CALIFORNIA. HE MISSES HIS FAMILY AND HIS KIDS HAVE NOT SEEN THEIR GRANDPARENTS IN OVER 6 YEARS, BOTH HE AND HIS WIFE HAVE TO WORK TO ALSO MAKE ENDS MEET. EVERY STATE HAS IT GOOD AND BAD, THERE ARE NO PERFECT STATES IN AMERICA

      • Serendipity

        Have you suggested to him to perhaps join the armed forces or the police force/fire brigade etc? Furthermore, what is his degree in? Is he a doctor, an engineer, a scientist or is his qualification in basket weaving etc? Degrees nowadays must be something employers want and need to improve their business and generate income. How can your son contribute to whatever business he wants to enter? Has your son thought about learning a 2nd language, perhaps even an Asian language seeing that there seem to be quite a few Asians in your area, to improve his employability prospects in a tough job market? That would certainly impress his potential employers and improve his employment prospects. Finally, is he humble when approaching prospective employers or does he think they and the rest of the world owes him a living? You will be surprised at what employers pick up in interviews. Attitude is everything sometimes. Tell him to be prepared to start at the bottom and work his way up. When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

        • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

          WHY SHOULD MY SON JOIN THE MILITARY TO GET KILLED OR INJURED BEYOND REPAIR. MY HUSBAND SERVED IN VIETNAM AND WE HAVE HAD OUR SHARE OF THE EFFECTS OF BEING IN THE MILITARY. A HIGH SCHOOL FRIEND JOIN THE SERVICE AND SHE WAS RAPED BY SEVERAL SOLDERS AND TODAY LIVES ALONE ON A FARM AFRAID OF MEN AND PEOPLE IN GENERAL. NO ONE OWES ANYONE A LIVING BUT EMPLOYERS NOW HIRE THEIR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES MORE OFTEN THAN ANYONE ELSE AND YOU HAVE TO KNOW SOMEONE TO GET A JOB IN CALIFORNIA. HOW DARE YOU SAY THESE UNEMPLOYED COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE LAZY, AFTER OVER 500 JOB APPLICATIONS AND HOURS AND DAYS OF SEARCHING FOR WORK, ANY ONE WOULD BE TIRED. AND THE NEW TREND IS TO HIRE MARRIED MEN, WHY BECAUSE SO MANY EMPLOYEES HAVE TOLD MY SON THAT HE HAS NO CHILDREN OR FAMILY SO THEY WOULD RATHER HIRE A MARRIED MAN WHO NEEDS THE WORK MORE. YOU NEED A REALITY CHECK, MY SON IS A GOOD PERSON, QUITE HUMBLE, WELL EDUCATED AND A HARD WORKER WHO STILL CONTINUES TO WORK SMALL PART-TIME WORK TO PAY SOME OF HIS EXPENSES, HE IS TOUGH BUT EVEN THE TOUGH GET TIRED….YOU NEED A REALITY CHECK BIG TIME. HOW ABOUT OFFERING HIM YOUR JOB IF YOU HAVE ONE!!!! AND JUST IN CASE YOU DO NOT KNOW IT IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY NOW 80 % OWNED BY THE ASIANS THEY DO NOT WANT TO HIRE ANYONE BUT THEIR OWN KIND. THE NEW CHINA, GROWING RAPIDLY IN AMERICA. CHINA NOW OWNS THE THREE LARGES MEAT COMPANIES IN AMERICA, AND IS BUYING UP OUR COUNTRY A PIECE AT A TIME AND THEY HIRE ONLY CHINES, THEIR OWN KIND….ANYONE ELSE NEED NOT APPLY HOW DO THEY DO THIS BY REQUIRING THAT NEW EMPLOYEES SPEAK SEVERAL ASIAN LANGUAGES AND THEY SERVICE THEIR OWN THIS WAY AND KEEP AMERICAN WORKERS OUT. THEY DO USE ILLEGAL MEXICANS TO DO THE HARD WORK AND USUALLY HAVE ONE SPANISH SPEAKING PERSON WORKING FOR THEM. YOU REALLY NEED A REALITY CHECK BEFORE YOU START MAKING SUCH UNFOUNDED STATEMENTS AND SOUND SO SAINTLY…..YOUR COMMENT IS DISGUSTING AND JUDGMENTAL AND CONDESCENDING. I GUESS YOU ARE LIKE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WITH THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND AND DO NOT SEE THE REAL REALITY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING….HOPE TRUMP WILL CHANGE ALL THE EVIL THAT OBAMA HAS DONE TO THIS NATION.

      • Lumpy Rutherford

        Has your son considered going back to the university to earn a Teaching Certificate? It may not require many credit hours beyond what he already has, and schools are certainly not getting any smaller. If he’s mechanically inclined, he could try something I once did just as a supplement to my regular paycheck. I ran ads in a local shopper offering to haul away dead lawn mowers, free of charge. In the early Spring, when the average lawnmower owner finds he can’t start his lawnmower, he gives up in disgust and buys a new one. Then, they called me and I hauled away the “junker”. Usually, it’s no more difficult that draining out last year’s gasoline, putting NEW gasoline in the tank, installing a new spark plug (about $2 at WALMART), a new filter, and spritzing a little Starting Fluid into the carburetor, and pulling the starting cord. Let it run on its own for 30 minutes or so to wash out the gunk from last year’s gasoline out of the carburetor, then advertise the refurbished mower in the same shopper (or Craigslist) for $75.00. Good luck!

        • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

          hard to go back to school when one has a pre-existing fed loan and no money to pay ones bills. My daughter has two degrees and still cannot find work. California is becoming a new China, first requirement to have a job, know a Asian language or Spanish. the only two classes of people who can find work in our area. Chines have taken over 7 large cities in our San Gabriel Valley, from buying up homes, businesses, jobs, even all our signs are in Chines with now English in small letters, some do not even have English signs. The rest of America has not realized it yet but China owns more than 2 fourths of all American companies and land. the three larges meat companies in America are now owned by the Chines, come to California and see the new America where Americans cannot find work or places to live… only three American families left on my block, our city is 90 per cent Chines in only 2-3 years. TRUMP HAS IT RIGHT WE ARE SELLING OUT OUR PEOPLE AND OUR COUNTRY. NO CHINES WANTS TO HIRE AMERICANS HERE ONLY THEY HIRE MEXICANS AND PAY THEM PEANUTS AND GIVE THEM NO BENEFITS USING THEM AS SLAVE LABOR DOING THE DIRTY WORK THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO. THEY ARE EVEN BUYING OUT OUR HOSPITALS AND REUSING TO LET AMERICAN DOCTORS JOIN THEIR PRACTICES AND THEY GIVE BETTER TREATMENT TO THEIR OWN KIND. THE BLACKS THINK THEY HAVE IT BAD, COME TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND SEE ANY AMERICAN MISTREATED BY THE ASIAN PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. SICK AND TIRED OF IT. SEND THEM ALL BACK TO CHINA, AND SEND ALL THE ILLEGALS BACK TO MEXICO AND JUST MAYBE AMERICANS CAN AGAIN FIND WORK

          • 2Shadow2

            Get out of California. I am a recovering Californian and I only miss the climate but it has long become Mexifornia and it is a role model for what the Communists want for the entire country. The cost of gas alone should tell you what is wrong with the “tax and buy votes mentality” of moonbeam and the rest of the looney politicians there. Gas is thirty five cents average a gallon higher in California than anywhere. That drives every single cost of living through the roof. The idiots are broke and lying about it. Now they are going to tax the earners more to pay for the defense of illegals who are going to be deported. Really? They cannot survive without federal subsidies and were it not for cheap Mexican labor to pick the corps they would have been gone long ago. And the fools are still talking about succeeding from the union. When pigs fly and you can borrow somewhere else. I’m just saying…do some homework and get out before it gets worse.

          • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

            WHEN ONE HAS A HOME, JOB AND THREE KIDS LIVING IN CALIFORNIA IT IS NOT SO EASY TO JUST PICK UP AND MOVE, WE ARE BOTH SENIORS AND FOR ONE OWN OUR HOME, AND HAVE TWO OF OUR CHILDREN LIVING WITH US…. NOT REASONABLE….EASIER SAID THAN DONE. THE WHOLE COUNTRY HAS PROBLEMS THE EAST HAS COLD, SNOW AND TERRIBLE WINTERS, OTHER STATES HAVE NO JOBS, SOME STATES ARE HIGH IN CRIME AND ALSO LACK JOBS. FEW STATES ARE SO GOOD THAT IT IS WORTH LEAVING ONES HOME AND JOB FOR. WE HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK. MY FRIEND IN ARIZONA THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER AND FOUND THAT ARIZONA HAS TERRIBLE HEALTH CARE FOR SENIORS AND LITTLE HELP FOR THE RETIRED PERSON. TEXAS GET REAL HOT AND CRIME IS HIGH. NO STATE IS PERFECT AND NO MOVE GUARANTEES THAT THINGS WILL BE BETTER SOME WHERE ELSE.

          • 2Shadow2

            Stop with the caps and quit making excuses for everything. You are your biggest problem.

          • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

            STOP WITH YOUR DISGUSTING JUDGMENT CALLS AND THINKING YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO EVERYONE’S PROBLEM, YOU ARE A BIGGER PROBLEM, PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL, YOU ARE NOT ONLY RUDE AND FILLED WITH PRIDE YOU SEEM TO THINK THAT EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO YOUR IDEAS. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT OTHERS THAT MAKES YOU SO ANGRY AND RUDE. THE TRUTH HURTS, AND REALITY IS HARD TO TAKE, EAT YOUR PRIDE AND STOP SOUNDING OFF LIKE YOU ARE GOD. NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO LISTEN TO AN OLD UNHAPPY, FOOL

          • 2Shadow2

            Stupid is as stupid does. I never said you had to listen. But if you don’t want opinions, why bother to ask or read what is posted. Rude is blaming everyone for your self inflicted torment. You know nothing about me, but I can tell you I have solved more probems than not, raised three kids on my own and put them all through college. Good luck with finding the true use of disgusting. Over use will not help. PS Take your cap lock off since you really don’t seem to know the meaning of all caps. Sad that.

          • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

            WOW FORGOT YOU WHERE A SAINT, WELL LET US SEE I HAVE RAISED 4 KIDS ON MY OWN, AND LOST TWO AT BIRTH. I HAVE DEALT WITH A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND HAVE PUT ALL MY KIDS THROUGH COLLEGE. I KNOW WHAT CAPS MEAN, BUT I HAVE A EYE PROBLEM AND SO AS YOU SEE AGAIN YOU MAKE ASSUMPTIONS. PEOPLE WHO ASSUME MAKE ASSES OF THEMSELVES. YOU ARE NOT TALKING TO SOME CHILD. DO NOT EMAIL ME AGAIN. YOU ARE A DISGUSTING, RUDE, GRUMPY OLD MAN THANK GOD YOU DO NOT HAVE A WIFE, HOPE YOU KIDS STILL SEE YOU, I WOULD NOT

          • 2Shadow2

            Snif, snif, Who cares what you think, loser. You live with disgusting as your main adjective.

          • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

            be gone satan, you are disgusting, rude, etc. people like you ruin this world.

          • 2Shadow2

            That would be Satan with a capital “S”. Try an education for a little more perspective on why you are where you are. And do see if you cannot find a synogym for “disgusting’. What a broken record you are.

          • Carmen Sepulveda

            When Jeff Sessions becomes AG write to him about this. He is very sympathetic to the plight of Americans due to legal and illegal immigration. He thinks there should be a moratorium on legal immigration until Americans who are out of work find work. All this countries employment problems started with Ted Kennedy and the Chamber of Commerce Republican wing enacting the Immigration and Naturalization Act in 1965. Suddenly this country was flooded with low skilled foreign workers willing to work for much less than the American worker. Suddenly wages became stagnant. It totally destroyed the black working class putting millions of black family men out of work overnight. Of course the solution the feds came up with, Johnson’s Great Society, was the final nail in the coffin of the black family as it fostered serial monogamy and out of wedlock births. That damage has now spread throughout society right into the heart of the middle class itself.

          • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

            YOU ARE SO RIGHT ON, HOPE TRUMP CHANGES THINGS AROUND

        • 2Shadow2

          Very good point. The medical field always needs qualified people. Certifcated to be sure. The more educated you are the more you make but an emergency medical technician, xray technician, and other positions are under a year and you can work while you go to school. Sports bars have high turnover because they are kids doing just that. Looking for something better and when they get it off they go.

      • 2Shadow2

        Substitute teaching K-12 only requires a degree. It is not always easy but my experience was in spanish speaking districts and they were tough as hell. A lot of transient kids etc. But Charter schools are great and you can survive on substitute teaching.

  • 2Shadow2

    A great many problems would be solved if there were a mandatory military service required of all American citizens of 18. I know it sounds like indoctrination but there is nothing like teaching independence, patriotism, teamwork and discipline at an early age to combat the creeping Communist propaganda this country has been suffering for years. A little discussed but staggering figure from this past election is the number of millennials who vote for Sanders or Clinton. We may have lost an entire generation and had better get it back real quick or all is lost. “Liberal arts” sums up a great deal. Education has always been a target for Communist infiltration. It’s why Hitler and Stalin had Hitler Youth and Young Pioneers, respectively, which provided a pattern for Common Core. The introduction of PC is also a left wing movement that has caused incredible damage to this country. This first article is a good essay on the influence of Communism in the US. You can bet that it would never be taught even as an elective at most colleges. The second article gives you a look at where PC came from.

    https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12385.24.172.0/united-states/has-america-been-influenced-by-communism

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-07/thin-skinned-minority-ruining-nation-professor-crushes-political-correctness-wave-sw

    • Jerryb53

      Agree totally. Two years in Military service would provide besides what you listed a good education and a path for the kids to begin when they leave. These are the crucial years in determining what kind of adult they will grow into. But this will never happen because of the progressive liberal climate in America. maybe I’m wrong. I pray that Trump will steer America back on the right course.

      America must turn towards God if this is going to get fixed.

      • santa

        Jerryb53 I must agree 100%. I was “drafted” after college and being in the Army for a total of 4 years (active/reserve) gave me a much-needed perspective beyond college and receiving a BA degree. The last sentence in your post deserves a STANDING OVATION !

      • 2Shadow2

        I agree. But I would add that American religious leaders have to step up for what’s right instead of a government subsidy. Especially a subsidy that is conditional on accepting social and political views which are not in agreement with Christian teachings. Churches have become big business and very active in bending the teachings all under the guise of modernizing and so forth. This is leftist rubbish brought to us by the same idiots who beleive the Consistution is a living document to be bent and twisted by activist judges.

        • Jerryb53

          Good points. Churches are under the yoke of the federal government because they want their subsidies. Just like every other group of people they want to control, farm subsidies etc. The Churches(Roman Catholic in my case) do not talk against politicians who claim they are Catholic but believe in pro-choice. This is just 1 example for accepting bribe money.

    • SovereignAmerican

      Exactly what I and my buddies said in ’72-’73; graduate HS, then 2 yrs. mandatory gov’t service: military, state, local, AmeriCorp, etc. THEN you can go to college since you might have an idea what you might want to do. Or, you might realize that a tech education would suit you better, HVAC, plumber, electrician, or some new field not taught in college. In any case, the required life lessons would most likely be experienced and gov’t would benefit from the forced turnover. Besides, anyone with half a brain would realize then that gov’t is NOT the solution to “problems”. The liberal progressive mantra would be falling on deaf ears.

      • FRLBJ

        Americorps is a communist organization. Community organizing for the Party is what they do.

        • 2Shadow2

          Yes. But there are a many such organizations, ACORN, Planned Parenthood, Fanny Fredddy, etc.,hat are nothing ubut piggy banks for the DOC. And I won’t even talk about what a money laundering scam the Clinton Foundation is. The Communist Party of the USA sued the DOC in 2010 for stealing thier platform!! CPUSA endorsed Hillary this past election. See if you can tell the difference in the DOC and the CPUSA. http://freedomoutpost.com/hillary-clinton-a-communist/

    • Nick Digilio

      No, no, and no. Do you really want the leviathan called the “federal” government (truly it is the national government as there is nothing federal about it) taking on the burden of training, housing, feeding, medicating, educating, and equipping millions of young men (and now women)? Think about what it would cost! Not to mention these people would have families that also would need to be housed, fed, etc… Just imagine what the Veterans Administration would look like! Do you really want the national govt to have millions of more hands at its disposal so that it can go bomb brown people in third world countries, saber rattle at Russia, and spend billions on “necessary” weapons development in the process? Understand that the military is not what it was. It is now nothing more than exactly what you said it sounded like: an indoctrination camp, the same as every other institution that the govt runs, a place where women are put into combat roles, where sexual assault real or imagined (the latter sometimes as dangerous as the former) is rampant, pornography is everywhere, LGBTQ are praised and accepted, transgenders have their surgeries paid for, and our people are sent to die for very little good reason. You want to talk about political correctness? The military is the king of it now. I have zero point zero desire to have myself forcefully and unconstitutionally placed under such a mantle.

      • 2Shadow2

        Your opionion. The military PC is forced by Washington. And since none of this is possible without getting the Communists out of power I am not suggessting we have any more than a military volunteer service based on a quota. The mandated training is milerly a character development program and is far cheaper than the nanny state welfare system. The rest you speak of is over the top.

        • Nick

          Of course the PC is forced by Washington. As long as we have a standing army it will be under Washington’s control, which is why it is a terrible idea to place more people under its control. I am not saying that the military hasn’t helped people grow up, but I don’t think it would be effective to subjugate everyone to military service. In fact it could be damaging for the reasons I listed above, none of which were “over the top” as you put it.

          • 2Shadow2

            So say you . We agree to disagree.

      • Troll.

        • Nick Digilio

          Not quite.I am here because I read the article and agree with it. I just think mandatory military service is not the answer

      • Carmen Sepulveda

        Yes, yes, yes. Young people will get something they no longer receive at home – discipline, and more importantly, self discipline.

        • Nick

          But that’s exactly the problem – they no longer get it at home. This is simply relying on government to solve ANOTHER one of the american unions social problems as opposed the people fixing themselves. The military doesn’t exist to play nanny to America’s problem youth, it exists to kill people who threaten the union and for a few smaller roles.

          • Ryan

            Thank you, Nick. I like your line of thinking. I have 5 boys and a 1-year old girl. My two oldest boys are altar servers. All my children 4+ have household tasks they are responsible for. They treat adults with respect. I’m offended by the thought that the military (which nowadays pushes modern American “values” on other countries so they can be “free” to participate in things like LGBT stuff, porn, divorce, etc. I’m not saying there aren’t people with good values and good intentions in our military, but I don’t like when the whole society is labeled un-disciplined and in need of joining the military. Perhaps the people calling for this should be the ones joining the military themselves. I would much rather see my boys become priests than soldiers. And, I would be very upset if my daughter ever ended up in the military, whether voluntarily or involuntarily.

    • Mandatory miltary is not the way to go unless its wartime. The DI’s step on your back in training, and cause perm injuries, they disregard human rights. documented. Russia and China have mandatory military service, see how great that is.
      Also, you are subject to recall the rest of your life. Read the fine print, its not like back in your day, sorry. See how whistleblowers are treated. I have great respect for the soldiers, most of my family volunteered.

      • 2Shadow2

        Do tell. How do you define wartime?? You speak from a liberal perspective which is precisley the actions Obama and the alternative lifestyle politicians have forced on the military. After 10 years of a social experiment to increase “diversity” at the service academies the rape and sexual misconduct is through the roof. By lowering the SAT scores to get more “diveristy”, that is exactly what they got. Stupid, ill bred cretins. There will never be an option for any of what I suggest until the snowflakes get out of ear shot. It has taken many years of Communist indocrination in the educational system to get this country in the sloth position it occupies now. Millennials want the government to pay for them to do nothing. The introduction of PC has damaged American to the extreme that if it can be undone it might take decades.

    • Jose Samilin

      I agree, in peace and in war time, since we have been, in fact, already invaded by this called “ghost soldiers” who do not want to work even a good job is offered. They were sick of sloth and immoral vices. Wake up America!!!

    • Carmen Sepulveda

      I think this is so necessary for all citizens. It should be mandatory here like it is in Israel.

      • 2Shadow2

        Great point. Thank you. I forgot about how the Israelis deal with being surrounded by rabid dogs. You see women of all ages packing weapons on the streets. Pretty harsh but they are well trained and there is no danger from them except to the terrorists. Before I get some goofy reply from the left wingers I am not suggesting open carry of automatic weapons here.

      • Ryan

        All citizens, really? Even women? That’s a bad idea.

  • Randall Miller

    As an increasing volume of work becomes done by robots, this problem will get worse with many men who wish to work unable to find any. What becomes of mankind in an economy dominated by a small number of people who own and control mechanized production and the few people left to service the machines and the few tasks that require a human, or where a human is wanted? Already their is discussion about somehow trying to give people squeezed out of the productive side of the economy a welfare wage so that someone is left to consume, and people are thus rendered unwilling to fight back. And what about the total control those few who are left with all the wealth will have over those who are thus subjugated. This writer sees this as THE big issue that mankind is going to have to deal with in defense of the sanctity of the livelihood, and the very life of, mankind.

    • Jerryb53

      ” I’ll be back” Unfortunately the movie Terminator is fast becoming a reality. Where robots are able to think and process. Already for 6,000.00 you can by a robot of the opposite sex for a sexual partner. When the price comes down this will destroy society. This robot looks and feels like a human. It is warm to the touch. WOW! A normal relationship will become extinct. All Babies will be born artificially. I pray that God intervenes before this ever becomes a reality.

  • Rose Marie Doyle

    As one who has taken in homeless for the past 35 years, I can say that many of these men (and women, also) deal with mental illness which makes impossible a full-time responsible job. They can’t cope with the stress and are forced to give up. According to Scripture, Deuteronomy 28:28, mental illness is a curse that comes upon a God forsaking, decadent society. Also, while parents are both busy working outside the home, children often are not taught to work. The habit and skills of working take diligence and determination for parents to build in their children. When they also teach caring and a heart for service the burden of work becomes easier.

  • Jennifer Marasco Mann

    I see so many of these folks daily downtown where I work. Panhandling is now an epidemic!!! No shame. No goals. No intent to do better. Just there — day in and day out. Very, very sad!!! Young, able “men” in body, but childlike in the mind. Not sure what the answer is but this is no joke it’s reality!!!

    • Jerryb53

      Jen, the Public(Communist) school system has done an excellent job. Hopefully Trump will get rid of Common Core and put educational standards(tough) back into the educational system. Get rid of “no child left behind” mentality. He if they fail they get left behind. Your doing a kid a disservice by promoting them to the next level if they have failed. And another thing abolish the ghetto language and disdain for police and woman. Make it illegal for music that degrades women and calls for shooting cops to be published. This is a must to save our kids.

      • Jennifer Marasco Mann

        I agree Jerry! Many substantial changes need to be made. I’m so excited about President Trump! Finally a voice of reason. The million dollar question is how to get kids to care. You can lead them to water but can’t make them drink. We have a very lazy culture — my kids included! I see disturbing trends in them like doing the least amount just to get by. It’s not us — the parents — it’s a mindset that kids are missing now. We couldn’t wait to get a job so we would have money, etc. Not sure what the answers are but I’m not giving up!
        Blessings!
        Jennifer

        • Jerryb53

          Jen, Hopefully now our Country can turn to God and the educational system can be overhauled. I’d like to see more support for Homeschooling. Make it easier for the parents to do that.

          • Jennifer Marasco Mann

            I agree! Especially with the rising costs of Catholic School tuition! It’s SO expensive. Homeschooling is a great alternative and it’s getting more and more popular.
            Blessings my friend!

          • Jerryb53

            Same to you Jen.

  • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

    as a senior, with two adult kids at home, we are frustrated because our children want to work and cannot find work, thanks to our government, they have applied for hundreds of jobs and no one want to hire two college graduates, hard working young adults, in our city you need to know an Asian language & Spanish or no one want to hire you. disgusting people from China have a better chance of find work than my American born, College educated children. Our city looks like China, and Mexican do all the low paying jobs.

    • Jerryb53

      Why do you say “disgusting people from China”? Where do you live? It sounds like you are just making excuses. If it’s that bad move to another town or city.

      • jaykay60

        Jerryb53, in fairness, I think the poster’s syntax/unfamiliarity with English is at fault (looking at the rest of the post). I don’t think s/he meant that the “disgusting” should apply to Chinese people, I think it was a reference to the general situation being “disgusting”. At least, I hope so!

        • Jerryb53

          No I think he was calling all Chinese disgusting. “disgusting people from China” if he said “disgusting people from Africa” would you think the same thing. He would have received many reply’s on that one and not too kind.

  • Mike Knife

    Big money (Big Bankers) are paying Psychiatry to control populations. Psychiatry came from Nazi Germany and like a cancer it has been spreading around the world like a parasite and it is destroying the young people and killing people with psych med drugs, that destroy the brains and minds of people, young and old. They are a not so Invisible Army That Occupies America and the world.

    • Jerryb53

      Yes, American has become a pill popping Society. Every little ailment has to have a drug to prevent it or control it, with side effects worse than the ailment.

  • Ernesto Lopez

    Fault cannot be pinpointed to obvious sources only. The world entices many to the pleasures of “Retirement”, the idolatry god of this generation. The advertising industry is increasingly enticing markets to the lures of endless vacations, monster homes, toys for the big boys, and other hedonistic pursuits. These ads are not only reaching their desired markets (i.e., the retirees or the close to being one) but the younger generations as well. Its side effects, e.g., envy, greed, materialism, etc., have the undesired result of tempting those who have nots to join the haves in the quickest time possible. Thus gambling, scams, robberies,and other softer criminal activities are proliferating. An average job is frowned upon as a useless endeavor that will fail in achieving one’s goal to surpass your neighbor! We have to re-educate the youth with time-tested church, family, and community values, especially caring for others
    and forgetting one self. All possible solutions should be under the divine guidance of the Holy Spirit, thru prayer and discernment. For our Lord says “Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself.” (Matt 6:34)

    • Jerryb53

      Ernesto, you hit on all the good points. Well said. The “instant gratification” mentality and the push for retirement. Instead we should be encouraging people to work as long as they want. Telling 20 year olds to start saving for retirement is not productive. They have other expenses that are more important. Then Society tells parents that along with retirement they need to save for their child’s education. What’s left. When the parents can’t do this they think they have failed their kids and themselves. One of my manages years ago was beating himself up because his kids were nearing college age and he couldn’t pay for their College.
      In my opinion the push for College education is a plan by the NWO to get kids in debt for the rest of their lives and then they are contoled by the government. It’s one big College Industrial Complex.

  • JMJ

    Ten million men are not working and it’s because they are infantilized. So what are we to debate? Your infantile conclusion? Just a simple search on the internet turned up Trump stating 98 million Americans are unemployed & this June 2016 article: “Something is rotten in the U.S. economy. Poor men without a college degree are disappearing from the labor force. The share of prime-age men (ages 25-54) who are neither working nor looking for work has doubled since the 1970s.

    “But behind all of these trends, there is a larger story: the decline of sectors dominated by male workers. In 1954, the highwater mark for male participation, the manufacturing and construction sectors accounted for nearly 40 percent of all jobs. Now, after the long decline of manufacturing and the end of the housing bubble, they account for just 13 percent. These are jobs that men without a college degree can count on, and they’re much rarer than they used to be. The White House report notes that “when the share of state employment attributable to construction, mining and to a lesser extent manufacturing are higher, more prime-age men participate in the labor force.” In other words, men are more likely to work in areas where the state directly subsidizes employment in male-heavy occupations.

    But the private sector is shifting toward work that has historically been done by women. There are four occupations expected to add more than 100,000 jobs in the next decade: personal care aides, home health aides, medical secretaries, and marketing specialists. All of them currently have more female workers than male. “Some of the decline in work among young men is a mismatch between aspirations and identity,” Lawrence Katz, a professor of economics at Harvard University, told me last year. “Taking a job as a health technician has the connotation as a feminized job. The growth has been in jobs that have been considered women’s jobs—education, health, government.

    ….The White House report lists several ways to raise the employment level of male workers, like criminal justice reform and removing occupational licenses. But here is a bolder plan: A state-and-federally funded voucher program that moves men from economically stricken areas toward metros in need of construction workers.

    This plan would require heroic (and heretofore unprecedented) participation from all levels of government. Metropolitan areas might have to rezone neighborhoods to provide for more low-income housing, and the GOP Congress would have to agree to what is essentially a multi-billion dollar stimulus package, which it has repeatedly said it will never do.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/06/the-missing-men/488858/

    P.S. I don’t know any of the men you are talking about, do have a cousin who works construction when he can and also a female friend in her 50s who was laid off at the beginning of last year and has yet to find a job. Somehow none of these folks have asked me for money because they turned 60!

    • Jerryb53

      You want more government involvement? Haven’t we had enough of that?

      • JMJ

        I don’t want more gov’t involvement–not even sure it would work–but included to illustrate the scope of the problem. I was turned off by Horvat’s article which seems to disparage and blame the victims: (poor) men (an easy target nowadays). Why is it okay for rich people to sit around and do nothing but jet from one home to another / one party to the next, one blog/book to the next, but men who are managing to support themselves somehow are being denigrated for watching t.v. and socializing. Why doesn’t this article ask what woman does anyone know who wants to be a stay at home wife and mom and have more than 2-3 pets (children)? I guess women who work are “industrious” — but, men don’t have wombs, so they can’t do what women are supposed to be doing (according to the Triune God). The fact is that we have all been public/catholic school indoctrinated to this gender-less worker’s paradise & as one comment here has noted will soon be replaced by robots so all that’s left is to prepare ourselves to attend reality circuses where we watch Christians get fed to the lions (the Killer Games).

        Remnant currently is hyping Kellyanne Conway as a feminism’s nightmare: “And here’s another hopeful sign: President Donald Trump’s top advisor will be an Irish-American, happily married Catholic mother of four who makes breakfast every morning for her kids and then goes to Mass. She’s a daily communicant! …..it’s nice to know that a faithful Catholic is to become chief advisor to the next President of the United States”

        http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/remnant-television/item/2967-kellyanne-conway-feminisms-nightmare

        Well pee-eeew – Nancy Pelosi is the mother of five–not sure how many times a day she goes to mass, but Martin O’Malley is a daily communicant and a father of four and his wife is a judge/mother of four and I guess both Pelosi & the O’Malleys’ are happily married, and the O’Malleys are Irish, but does that make them Catholic or feminism’s nightmare? Both KellyAnne, Katie and Nancy are contracepting. KellyAnne just ain’t talkin’ about it [and i’m not talkin’ ‘natural family plannin’ either–15 yrs of marriage 4 kids (2=twins)) — she’s also an expert on “conservative gender issues” (whatever that means). Maybe she’s opposed to abortion (as long as it doesn’t interfere w/her career or trump’s re-election), but what about Trump’s support of sodomy, sodomite marriage, sodomite adoption, contraception and divorce?

        http://heavy.com/news/2016/08/george-t-conway-iii-kellyanne-husband-photos-age-net-worth-lawyer-paula-jones-bill-clinton-hillary-drudge-federalist-society/

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_O'Malley

        • Jerryb53

          Your missing John’s point. This generation of kids expects the government to give them everything and they in turn just sit around not looking for work. They are living off the government’s tit and they expect everyone else to pay for it. Yes when they do that they have free time to watch 6hrs of TV, listen to the radio, get the best cell phones so they can spend 8hrs on it socilaizing.

          • JMJ

            They are living off the government–where’s the proof? Says they are living off their parents — isn’t John Horvat, JD Rockefeller etc.? Says they are living off their girlfriends, well look at Claus Van Bulow and Mr. Elizabeth Taylor (when was marryin’ an heiress not a way for a man to survive)?

            You say, “they expect everyone to pay for it.” Where’s your proof? When did begging get to be a dishonorable profession? Because you don’t want to look at it? I was in France in 1980 and right in front of their bid department stores was a whole line of beggars. Rome is known for its pickpockets same w/Alexandria & Cairo. Britain has been home of male unemployment since the 50s.

            “get the best cell phones” – who are you talking about – what proof do you have? Who cares anyway? If you want a better cell phone, buy it–sure it will make you happy. You all need to grow up. This is definitely not a Catholic blog.

            Meanwhile “faithfulCatholic Kellyanne Conway” doesn’t even use her husband’s last name and yet she’s gonna make fieminists tremble.

          • Jerryb53

            Your going off on a tangent. Your still missing John’s point.

          • JMJ

            The tone of this article really turned me off. So let’s take it from another angle–Jesus lived at home for 30 years. Seems like St. Peter was livin’ w/his mother-in-law and seems the mother of St. James & John travelled around w/them (like Jesus’ mother) and that after Jesus died John took Jesus’ mother into his house and she travelled w/him. When did men actually start moving out and getting their own apartments? DId that happen in the Middle Ages? Now that we’re legalizing murdering our parents because all the kids live in another state and have their own McMansions to support seems Horvat would be recommending kids move back in w/parents the way they did in the Middle Ages. On the other hand, younger sons (not to mention daughters) have always been considered somewhat difficult to place (i.e. find jobs for them). One son gets the estate (entailed)/family business, one son goes into the military (out now too since have to support bestiality, sodomy (can’t protest in Afghanistan when boys are being raped!)), one into the Church (that’s out now since Church has become sodomite and pervert haven of apostasy))…but younger sons maybe become profiteers, black sheep, have to marry an heiress, etc. It used to be recognized in all large families that all would not be equally successful, in fact, some might be mentally or physically handicapped (especially the last) and all family would care for each other. Seems Horvat would have something more to say than attack these men–like how was this problem handled in the middle ages. Jesus said to men, “Come, follow me.” St. Francis did the same–and if anyone cares to recall, he was taking his father’s money and giving it to the poor (and his father took him to court). What I would say is that: “The harvest indeed is great, but the labourers are few. Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he send labourers into his harvest.”

            P.S. You seem to be keepin’ this blog going. Also Happy Birthday John Horvat.

  • jaScott

    And I’ve got a news flash for them. They may not be growing up but they are growing old whether they want to or not. Life is funny that way. And it goes by pretty quickly.

  • Jerryb53

    Yes, but these robots have skin that is warm and other body parts that are warm. I pray that God intervenes before degradation of mankind reaches abominable
    proportions, far worse than it is now.

  • FRLBJ

    i am very much opposed to mandatory military service for women! Also, there are some young men who do know what they want to do and set about achieving it. The military does expose them to a lot of impurity and temptations to it. My brother and a nephew are a part of the group discussed in this article. The nephew’s mom had to have a career and could not be bothered to to spend time with her children. Her husband was a pron addict and after she talked him into a vasectomy, his life was destroyed. Adultery and,of course, divorce resulted and then drug addiciton ended it all. Then he was fired.
    My other brother started smoking marijuana from a young age, due to exposure in the the public school. he has not worked in 45 years as a result of his marijuana use over the years. It truly makes you crazy. Soro’s funding of marijuana legalization is truly a crisis. The legislators need to stop bowing to the Soros groupies and think about the well-being of its citizens.

  • MattR

    Collapse of good paying manufacturing jobs is another reason why the percentage of these potential workers are sitting idle in their parents’ basements. Back in the day if boys wee lazy & uneducated an assembly line job in Detroit, Chicago, or Cleveland straightened them up quickly. If you wanted to put food on the table you had to keep up the production. Didn’t need BA degree to do this. I read bunch of stories of high school dropouts in the 60s & 70s who got entry level tool & die maker jobs in auto-making shops. 5 years later on the job they were full fledged union members experienced enough to make $25/hr. Now those jobs are gone thanks to GATT, tech transfer to Europe & Japan, & now NAFTA.

  • rocky63

    Incredibly sad, but clearly true. Idle men, with no work and no family (other than the family that raises them). In equally large numbers (maybe even bigger numbers) millions of single women without a man and with kids being raised with no influence from a manly male. It’s a shame and a threat to the nation.

  • Chris Lilly

    The cure for an idler and ne’er do well can be found from King Solomon in Proverbs Chapter Six Verse Six through Eleven.

    Go to the ant O sluggard, study her ways and learn wisdom; for though she has no chief, no commander or ruler, she procures her food in the summer, stores up her provisions in the harvest. How long, O sluggard, will you rest? When will you rise from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the arms in rest. Then will poverty come upon you like a highwayman, and want like an armed man.

  • Daniel Amare

    Ask Meryl Streep and other Hollywood elites what they have done to our youth with their support to corrupt politicians in Washington including Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, so many more. California is particularly decimated, the young is discouraged, at school they are not learning what they need for their future but what liberal politicians want for themselves including like other places not U.S.A. like UN natural things not natural things, do bad not good, be globalist not Americans. Not Family value but no value. The school does not teach kids about science and value but global warming or climate change lies. For example if there is gravitational pull on earth is Nature, how is ordained Family equally Nature? If there is no gravity when the kids are dropped off at school how do they get there first, they must fly including the car, not like a plane in one direction but every member of the family will fly in separate different direction based on their weight, they have to let go what each is carrying as they are floating further up in the air with all their belongings books, lunch box etc. Mom will say oh! Where is my little one, Momi I am up here! Have you seen Dad? I think he flew South East of here. Have you seem my lunch bag? What good would that do you all the contents will fly their own way based on their weight. Look mom even the car is up on the air! Oh Lord! Oh I see Dad there that looks like the color of the shirt he is wearing way there, do you see that mom? No I don’t but I do see its’s not just us honey, it’s the whole town. They say “Ordained Family is as natural as the pull of gravity” what does that mean? That means we will thin out and become oblivion with anything UN Natural threatening it, that’s what it means. Then the Founding Fathers are right again, that’s what it means. You mean only one man and one women uses the word “Marriage” if ever “Law” is used, that’s what it means. Let’s pray then our Dad, Mom, and the children pray together for the pull of the earth Naturally to return so we go back home again, never to forget God’s precious gift “Ordained Marriage and family Unit. Never again we are blessed we took it for granted almost became extinct. Never again, Dad, Mom only live with a moral clock from now on. GHU JW

    • 2Shadow2

      Steve Allen, the great comedian, was a great advocate of improving the educational system. One of the last books he wrote before he died was called “Dumpth” which is a word he coined for the dumbing down of the American school system. It was scathing and I do not remember if it addressed the issue that the reason the system is so mediocre is because the government does not want people knoing the truth. Understanding that the entire tax system is not really law, and that the government is not your friend. What the want is flag, apple pie, blind patriotism and the ability to control the youngest and strongest so they can send them to insane wars for political and economic gain. Why does this administration fight so hard against home schooling? The great unanswered question of this past election is why did so many millennials vote for Hillary and Sanders? “Liberal arts” sums up a great deal. Education has always been a target for Communist infiltration. It’s why Hitler and Stalin had Hitler Youth and Young Pioneers, respectively, which provided a pattern for Common Core. The introduction of PC is also a left wing movement that has caused incredible damage to this country. This first article is a good essay on the influence of Communism in the US. You can bet that it would never be taught even as an elective at most colleges. The second article gives you a look at where PC came from. My point is that we are suffering a slow, steady, terminal disease. Unless we diagnose it as a nation and remedy the problem.
      https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12385.24.172.0/united-states/has-america-been-influenced-by-communism
      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-07/thin-skinned-minority-ruining-nation-professor-crushes-political-correctness-wave-sw

  • Daniel Amare

    Ask Meryl Streep and other Hollywood elites what they have done to our youth with their support to corrupt politicians in Washington including Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, so many more. California is particularly decimated, the young is discouraged, at school they are not learning what they need for their future but what liberal politicians want for themselves including like other places not U.S.A. like UN natural things not natural things, do bad not good, be globalist not Americans. Not Family value but no value. The school does not teach kids about science and value but global warming or climate change lies. For example if there is gravitational pull on earth is Nature, how is ordained Family equally Nature? If there is no gravity when the kids are dropped off at school how do they get there first, they must fly including the car, not like a plane in one direction but every member of the family will fly in separate different direction based on their weight, they have to let go what each is carrying as they are floating further up in the air with all their belongings books, lunch box etc. Mom will say oh! Where is my little one, Momi I am up here! Have you seen Dad? I think he flew South East of here. Have you seem my lunch bag? What good would that do you all the contents will fly their own way based on their weight. Look mom even the car is up on the air! Oh Lord! Oh I see Dad there that looks like the color of the shirt he is wearing way there, do you see that mom? No I don’t but I do see its’s not just us honey, it’s the whole town. They say “Ordained Family is as natural as the pull of gravity” what does that mean? That means we will thin out and become oblivion with anything UN Natural threatening it, that’s what it means. Then the Founding Fathers are right again, that’s what it means. You mean only one man and one women uses the word “Marriage” if ever “Law” is used, that’s what it means. Let’s pray then our Dad, Mom, and the children pray together for the pull of the earth Naturally to return so we go back home again, never to forget God’s precious gift “Ordained Marriage and family Unit. Never again we are blessed we took it for granted almost became extinct. Never again, Dad, Mom only live with a moral clock from now on. GHU JW

  • Ted

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38592448

    US tanks and armoured vehicles along with more than 3,000 US soldiers start arriving in Poland on Thursday.
    They are part of President Barack Obama’s response to reassure Nato allies concerned about a more aggressive Russia.

    Sorry, we Poles do not want You to start war with Russia on our behalf! We do not want war in our country!!! We have endured much hardship under communistic regime (being soldout to Russia by your president Roosvelt!) while you lived great lives in America!!!
    Do not invade our country!!!!
    Ted

    • 2Shadow2

      Yea yea Ted. Write to the Polish government about that. The troops would not be there if not for fear of Russian expanisonism. Obama is playing both ends against the middle and there was a missile defense system planned for Poland, under Bush, that Obama cancelled, But now the troops actually seems like the efort to tick off the Russians any way possible for screwing up the pland to have Assad tossed so the Muslim Brotherhood could take over. That was the great plan for the Middle East under Obama and Huma Abedin but the Russians have a naval port in Syria and are not about to let the US push them out. This too shall pass. If the Poles do not want the troops, they will leave. Just that simple but it has to come from the people through the Polish government.

  • Frank Mountbatton

    I agree with 2shadow 2. The underlying cause is Hollywood and the sexual revolution and its accompyning cortuption

  • 2Shadow2

    “Don’t call me Shirley!” 🙂

  • disqus_A7ZiD14I8W

    ONE JUST CANNOT PICK UP AND LEAVE CALIFORNIA, MY HUSBAND HAS A JOB, MY DAUGHTER IS IN MEDICAL SCHOOL AND MY TWO SONS LIVE HERE, WE OWN OUR OWN HOME ALL PAID FOR AND IT IS NOT A REASONABLE THING TO JUST PICK UP AND LEAVE CALIFORNIA. TO SOME PEOPLE IT MAY SEEM SO EASY BUT OTHER STATES ALSO HAVE PROBLEMS AND MY HUSBAND CANNOT LEAVE HIS GREAT JOB AND START ALL OVER AGAIN AS A SENIOR. 2SHADOW2 MAKES IT SOUND SO EASY.

  • M.

    Many of these fellows may well be the villainous loafers described above, but certainly not all. Barry and his handlers have done their work well, consequently there is often no possibility of their finding employment. If that be the case I don’t see what they could do to remedy the situation in this atomized pagan society. As for the point about their aversion to women and marriage I don’t blame them in the least. Half of all marriages end in divorce which is generally initiated by the woman. Getting married is like taking a double-barrelled sawn-off shotgun which has one barrel loaded and the other empty, picking a barrel, cocking its hammer, pointing it at yourself and pulling the trigger. The wise man learns from the misfortunes of others. Nothing I’ve seen in my observations of the married leads me to believe that it conduces to any great happiness, rather the opposite. Generally speaking, to have a wife in the house is to possess oneself of a cause of ceaseless vexation, an ever fruitful source of strife and turmoil. I don’t blame these fellows for saying no thank you. Life in this vale of tears is sufficiently miserable as it is; why make it worse?