• TheLastHonestLawyer

    The Crusaders who took Jerusalem massacred all the Muslims, Jews, and Orthodox Christians they could get their hands on, the fought among themselves over dividing the area into petty kingdoms.

    You call those saints?

    I’m a veteran, and a member of The Satanic Temple. You don’t speak for me.

    • JBoyer

      Somebody needs more information re: the Muslim takeover of formerly Christian lands and the resulting Christian Crusades to free people from Muslim’s vicious rule: https://home.isi.org/four-myths-about-crusades

      • TheLastHonestLawyer

        No I don’t, really. Jerusalem was captured by Arab Muslims in 614. They allowed the Christian pilgrimages to continue, and protected Jews from Christian violence. Christians seemed to have no problem with this until 1095 when Urban II, seeking to consolidate control of the Church and focus the squabbling Frankish and German nobles on something other than carving up Italy, called for a Crusade.

        Islam spread, peaceably, across North Africa and into Iberia. It was nobles on both sides who fought wars.

        • JBoyer

          Pretty much what I’d expect from a Satanist.

          • TheLastHonestLawyer

            What, facts? This is how it happened. Islam spread into Persia on the heels of the disastrous war with the Roman Empire under Heraclius. Islam raced across North Africa spread by merchants and itinerant preachers and from there into the Moorish states already in what we’d call Spain today. In the Levant, local rulers used the new faith as a unifying force to secure their rule and expand.

            This is history. This is how it happened. Deal with it.

          • JBoyer

            “What, facts?” Nonsensical and a non sequitur. I invite you to find a Catholic radio station and on the “Catholic Answers” show call in and question, or in your case, challenge them to intellectually challenge your satanic version of the past. If you are, in fact, honest.

          • TheLastHonestLawyer

            No, everything I’ve written is confirmed history. Not going to listen to Catholic radio, the apologies for centuries of child abuse would get boring.

            But pick out one thing I’ve said, and dispute it. Are you denying that Jerusalem fell to the Arabs in 614 and stayed under their control with no complaints from Europe for nearly five hundred years? Yes or no, is that fact I cited accurate?

  • Dan

    So, a piece of cement and bronze scares the shit out of these weak minded fear mongering bible thumpers? LOL

    • Why did atheists have to get rid of the 10 Commandments if it’s just cement, granite, etc.? I guess they were just scared too.

      • Dan

        And who is talking about your fucking 10 bullshit? We are talking about a satanic monument, a monument that scares idiots like you obviously.

    • disqus_prowomanprochildproLIFE

      My God, I believe, I adore, I hope, and I love Thee. I beg pardon for those that do not believe, do not adore, do not hope, and do not love Thee.

      May Our Most Blessed Mother be with you today, and all days.

      • Dan

        Does your deity read internet? I mean, why would a believer write a response here addressing god in the message? Does he read on an iPad? Does he need to sign in in order to read your babbling? Ah, let me guess, it is all about bragging and being holier than thou, right? You are like “look, look at me,s o pius and so holy…..”
        Hypocrites, all your kind.

        • disqus_prowomanprochildproLIFE

          Dan, May your life be filled with LOVE, JOY, and PEACE.

          Yes, I am a hypocrite, yes, I am a sinner. Yes, I am flawed. Yes, I do not have all the answers. You are probably a much better human and a much holier person than I am and I truly do mean that. I am very very flawed, but I keep trying my best. I am so sorry if I came across in a way that hurt you.

          In the words of St. Augustine, “Our hearts are restless, until they rest in You, O Lord.”. Have a good life.

          • Dan

            I’m so glad I have nothing to do with your god or your religion, or any religion for that matter! I’m not wretched, I don’t need to embarrass myself with the delusion of sin, and I don’t need any guy to die for anything. No, you can’t hurt me at all. But your religion disgusts me.

  • Thomas D

    “The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.”

    • sTv0

      Preach it, brother! The other tenets!!!

  • editorbcpatriot

    This goes against the foundations of our nation. America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. The Satanic Temple is trying to destroy the historic roots of the greatest country on God’s earth. People of morals, ethics and civility need to loudly protest this action of the city of Belle Plaine, Minn.

    • sTv0

      Judeo-Christian principles? You mean, like, putting homosexuals to death as it says in Leviticus, right? And, of course, we’d have to put to death anybody who plants crops of different kinds side-by-side, also Leviticus, eh?

      Oh, and let’s not forget putting to death anyone who works on the Sabbath. Or putting to death children who curse their parents.

      Yes, Judeo-Christian principles! Amen!!

      • JBoyer

        You are imagining you know anything about Christianity.

        • sTv0

          Um, no. Nothing I wrote is outside of the doctrines of Christianity. If you’re a Christian, you should know this, and it’s a shame if you don’t. Perhaps you could read your Bible…?

          • JBoyer

            hahahaha, what intellect: “Um, no” You’re an ignorant fool.

          • sTv0

            Typically, when one resorts to ad homs, one has signaled his capitulation. Thanks for playing.

          • JBoyer

            It’s (your soul) is not a game. Just pointing out your immature tactics. When/if you want to delve into the spiritual beauty start by tuning into Catholic radio and/or find a holy priest.

          • sTv0

            Find a Catholic priest? Srsly? Isn’t their track record of raping and torturing kids a bit on the wacked side? Who in their right mind would suggest such a thing? Jeepers!

            As for the soul, I’m sure you’re going to provide evidence that it exists, yes? Just a link to a peer-reviewed science journal article will do.

    • Dan

      ahhahaha so much morals for christian motherfuckers. Freedom of religion, remember? If you put up your fucking crosses, why not a Satanic monument? Or better, leave religion for your fucking home and let’s built a secular society.

    • Mikey Jacobs

      Actually, it really wasn’t. Read the constitution if you don’t believe me.

  • Saint Louis IX, the Crusader King, pray for us!

    • Dan

      Of course, I right wing fascist like you would love any of those assholes from the crusades. Did Louis hear your rant? Does he read internet? Why an idiot like you would post a prayer on internet? Of course, i should know better: it is all about bragging and showing off how holy you are….

    • It took some time to develop, but it was worth it. 🙂

  • Michelle Renee

    We many times hear people talking about the Founding Fathers as an example of why we live in a ‘Christian Nation’.

    Check out the many different things our Founding Fathers are actually quoted as saying:

    1. “While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and
    soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties
    of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our
    highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”
    The Writings of Washington, pp. 342-343.

    2. “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those
    which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be
    the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was
    in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the
    present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every
    denomination so far that we should never again see the religious
    disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”
    George Washington — letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792

    3. “The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity.
    Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions,
    Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we
    find in Christianity.”
    John Adams
    4. “God who gave us life gave
    us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we
    have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the
    people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to
    be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I
    reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a
    revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among
    possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence!
    The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that
    event.”
    Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237
    5.
    “The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud
    themselves for giving to Mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal
    policy: a policy worthy of imitation,” wrote Washington. “All possess
    alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no
    more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one
    class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent
    natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which
    gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires
    only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves
    as good citizens.
    George Washington in a letter to Touro Synagogue (1790)

    6. “Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for
    their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the
    precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience,
    to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and
    charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward
    Almighty God … What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be.”
    Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.

    7. “We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all
    religions shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for
    honors and power we may expect that improvements will be made in the
    human character and the state of society.
    Founding Father John Adams — letter to Dr. Price, April 8, 1785
    8. “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”
    James Madison — Letter to Wm. Bradford, April 1, 1774

    9. “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to
    liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses
    in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the
    support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
    Thomas Jefferson — in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814

    10. “The human understanding is a revelation from its maker, which can
    never be disputed or doubted. There can be no scepticism, Pyrrhonism, or
    incredulity or infidelity here. No prophecies, no miracles are
    necessary to prove this celestical communication. This revelation has
    made it certain that two and one make three, and that one is not three
    nor can three be one. We can never be so certain of any prophecy, or the
    fulfilment of any prophecy, or of any miracle, or the design of any
    miracle, as we are from the revelation of nature, that is, nature’s God,
    that two and two are equal to four.”
    Adam’s Letter to Thomas Jefferson, 14 September 1813

    12. “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
    maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of
    ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always
    avail themselves for their own purposes.”
    Thomas Jefferson — in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, December 6, 1813

    13. “No one sees with greater pleasure than myself the progress of
    reason in its advances towards rational Christianity. When we shall have
    done away the incomprehensible jargon of the Trinitarian arithmetic,
    that three are one, and one is three; when we shall have knocked down
    the artificial scaffolding, raised to mask from view the simple
    structure of Jesus; when, in short, we shall have unlearned everything
    which has been taught since His day, and get back to the pure and simple
    doctrines He inculcated, we shall then be truly and worthily His
    disciples; and my opinion is that if nothing had ever been added to what
    flowed purely from His lips, the whole world would at this day have
    been Christian. I know that the case you cite, of Dr. Drake, has been a
    common one. The religion-builders have so distorted and deformed the
    doctrines of Jesus, so muffled them in mysticisms, fancies and
    falsehoods, have caricatured them into forms so monstrous and
    inconceivable, as to shock reasonable thinkers, to revolt them against
    the whole, and drive them rashly to pronounce its Founder an imposter.
    Had there never been a commentator, there never would have been an
    infidel.”
    Jefferson’s Letter to Timothy Pickering, 21 Feb 1821
    14. “It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they
    believe in the Platonic mysticisms that three are one, and one is three;
    and yet the one is not three, and the three are not one: to divide
    mankind by a single letter into [“consubstantialists and
    like-substantialists”]. But this constitutes the craft, the power and
    the profit of the priests. Sweep away their gossamer fabrics of
    factitious religion, and they would catch no more flies. We should all
    then, like the quakers, live without an order of priests, moralise for
    ourselves, follow the oracle of conscience, and say nothing about what
    no man can understand, nor therefore believe; for I suppose belief to be
    the assent of the mind to an intelligible proposition.”
    Jefferson’s Letter to John Adams, August 22, 1813
    15. “The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”
    Founding Father James Madison, 1819, Writings, 8:432, quoted from Gene Garman, ?Essays In Addition to America’s Real Religion?

    16. “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every
    past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist
    in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    James Madison — letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822
    17. “Every new and successful example of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance.”
    James Madison — letter, 1822

    18. “Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1,500 years?”
    John Adams
    19. “Can a free government possibly exist with the Roman Catholic religion?”
    John Adams — letter to Thomas Jefferson

    20. “When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and
    when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support
    it so that its professors are obligated to call for help of the civil
    power, it’s a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.”
    Benjamin Franklin — letter to Richard Price, October 9, 1780

    21. “It may not be easy, in every possible case, to trace the line of
    separation between the rights of religion and the Civil authority with
    such distinctness as to avoid collisions and doubts on unessential
    points. The tendency to unsurpastion on one side or the other, or to a
    corrupting coalition or alliance between them, will be best guarded
    agst. by an entire abstinence of the Gov’t from interfence in any way
    whatsoever, beyond the necessity of preserving public order, and
    protecting each sect agst. trespasses on its legal rights by others.”
    James Madison, “James Madison on Religious Liberty”, edited by Robert S. Alley, ISBN 0-8975-298-X. pp. 237-238.
    22. “And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by
    the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed
    with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But
    we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these
    United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and
    restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most
    venerated reformer of human errors.”
    Jefferson’s letter to John Adams, April 11 1823

    23. “That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the
    manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction,
    not by force or violence; and therefore all men are equally entitled to
    the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience;
    and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian
    forebearance, love, and charity towards each other.”
    George Mason — Virginia Bill of Rights, 1776

    24. “God is an essence that we know nothing of. Until this awful
    blasphemy is got rid of, there will never be any liberal science in the
    world.”
    John Adams

  • Erik Gustafson

    LOL, religious freedom! REMEMBER!

  • Smiles7

    Christians need to unite especially in prayer that this satanic monument does not go up.